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American Airlines Accidentally Let Too Many Pilots Take Off the
54 points by huachttps://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/11/29/567286235/oop...
Xenos_Ender - 11 minutes ago
Curious... considering the consolidation of the airlines industry,
wouldn't that affect the ability for the market to absorb the
excess demand? (Assuming the other major airlines are saturated...)
simonjgreen - 10 minutes ago
Same thing happened to Ryanair recently as well.
ratsimihah - 2 minutes ago
"Arbitrary passengers above the age of 18 years old will be
designated as pilots upon boarding by the same software who
scheduled vacations. Merry Christmas to everyone!"
mig39 - 39 minutes ago
Do they use the same software as
cbhl - 6 minutes ago
American Airlines created their own computer system (SABRE) in
the 60s. It spun off into its own company in the
XR0CSWV3h3kZWg - moments ago
Who uses ya'll as opposed to y'all? What would ya'll even be an
moonka - 33 minutes ago
>We have reserve pilots to help cover flying in December, and we
are paying pilots who pick up certain open trips 150 percent of
their hourly rate ? as much as we are allowed to pay them per the
contractInteresting that there is a maximum rate.>In a post to its
website, the union warned its members that because "management
unilaterally created their solution in violation of the contract,
neither APA nor the contract can guarantee the promised payment of
the premium being offered."Looks like the pilots trust AA less than
I do when they promise vouchers.
maxxxxx - 26 minutes ago
"we are paying pilots who pick up certain open trips 150 percent
of their hourly rate "In most tech companies they would maybe
give you an extra pizza but certainly no extra pay.
save_ferris - 18 minutes ago
Not necessarily, a company I used to work for had to lay off a
significant chunk of engineering but paid out big bonuses to
those who stayed on. If there's a shortage of labor to do the
job, money is a pretty easy way to simplify the problem.It's
not a direct comparison, but then again, the jobs are pretty
different to begin with.
s73ver_ - 16 minutes ago
Money is the easiest way, but it seems like it's always the
way of last resort, after everything else has been tried, and
those things have blown up in their face.
ratsimihah - moments ago
In most tech companies base salary is already 150 percent of
the average salary.
chrisseaton - 22 minutes ago
That's because most tech companies pay a salary rather than an
user5994461 - 17 minutes ago
Isnt't a salary just a predefined quota of hours and rate?
Alupis - 16 minutes ago
> Isnt't a salary just a predefined quota of hours and
rate?That depends on one's employment contract.
vanadium - 13 minutes ago
In most companies I've been exposed to, it's the _minimum_
expected effort for the rate.It's also why one of the first
career mentorship steps I go through with Juniors is
calculating their hourly rate with the assumption of 40
hours a week (per the ostensible employee agreement), and
then calculating it against the _real_ hours worked per
week after taking a position.You'd be surprised how
illuminating that's been to those Juniors, and how much of
an imprint it left on those folks as they progressed in
their careers. A lot of people in our industry genuinely
don't recognize how much they devalue themselves and
diluting their hourly rate when they're putting in 60-80
hours a week.
dragonwriter - 11 minutes ago
Generally, no, especially for tech workers at common
Silicon Valley pay scales, which are exempt under state and
federal wage and hour laws.But lower-base-pay non-exempt
employees sometimes are quoted a salary but with terms that
make it a predefined quota of hours and rate that is in
practice more like an hourly rate; these positions usually
have paid leave so that, unless the leave is exhausted, it
mostly only differs from a pure salary in that overtime is
paid, either at straight, time-and-half, or double pay,
depending on labor law and contract terms.
chrisseaton - 3 minutes ago
No I think a salaried employee is a professional and
supposed to put in the hours required to get the job done,
within reason. For example if a client has come to see you
and your boss wants to take everyone for a work dinner you
wouldn't say 'sorry it's after hours' - you're paid full
time and you're supposed to be there as required, and you
don't quibble about the hours, within reason. Where as an
hourly employee would say 'sorry I'm off the clock'.