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Intel to Develop Discrete GPUs, Hires AMD's Raja Koduri as Chief
16 points by namlemhttps://www.anandtech.com/show/12017/intel-to-develop-discrete-g...iscrete-gpus-hires-raja-koduri-as-chief-architect
gbrown_ - 11 minutes ago
It will be interesting to see how "discrete" thses GPUs will be.
I'm assuming they will only be "descrete" in the sense that they
are not on the same chip, but rather same package (via EMIB).Either
way surely this is a move by Intel to take away from Nvidia's
consumer share (which makes up the vast majority of their income)
as Nvidia make inroads into the data center market?
diab0lic - 8 minutes ago
Part of me feels it would be very awesome to see onboard GPU
hardware outputting similar performance to discrete chips. Of
course it would change the size of the socket, or at least the
piece of hardware in the socket and cooling requirements. This
would have downsides in terms of consumer choice, mind you, or
even the fact that upgrading a chip would involve upgrading both.
It definitely has merit in the server or small form factor space
diab0lic - 11 minutes ago
The link is incredibly light on actual content but this seems to be
good news for AI enthusiasts as perhaps now we'll get a reasonable
competitor to CUDA/CUDNN and their associated hardware for running
GPU accelerated machine learning. Intel seems to be taking the
ML/AI space seriously and this move seems very likely to be
related. Yes I'm aware of OpenCL as I am also aware of it's level
of support with libraries such as PyTorch, Tensorflow, Theano -- it
isn't the first class citizen that CUDA is. While those libraries
aren't perfect the offer the experience of writing the experiment
on your laptop without a GPU, validating, then running the full
experiment on larger hardware.In my ideal world competition from
intel would force NVidia to play nice with OpenCL or something
similar, and encourage competition in the hardware space instead of
driver support space. Unfortunately the worst-case looks something
more like CUDA, OpenCL and a third option from Intel with OpenCL
like adoption. :(
moonbug22 - 3 minutes ago
Only armchair spectators are still talking about OpenCL. It's as
dead as disco.
payne92 - 11 minutes ago
Finally! Intel has a lot of catching up to do.As GPUs continue to
evolve into general purpose vector supercomputers, and as ML/deep
learning applications emerge, it seems clear that more and more
future chip real estate (and power) will go to those compute units,
not the x86 core in the corner orchestrating things.
jjaredsimpson - 10 minutes ago
So what's going to win out, the "Intel is evil" circle jerk, or
"competition fixes all markets" meme?
user982 - 9 minutes ago
I can't wait for the twist in tomorrow's episode.
eganist - 8 minutes ago
Can't fight them on price? Fight them on talent.Whoever at AMD who
refused to match the offer probably made a terrible decision. This
is about the worst time to lose that talent right after inking a
gpu die deal which, in light of this news, will only be temporary.
AMD just got played.If I were AMD, I would review Mark
Papermaster's comp and incentives to ensure he doesn't leave.(I'm
JosephLark - 4 minutes ago
Interesting, given that just 2 days ago it was announced  that
Intel was going to start to use AMD for some of their integrated
graphics. Now they're going to complete against them in the
discrete graphics space.Also, Koduri recently left AMD after what
many felt was a disappointing discrete graphics release in Vega.
wyldfire - 3 minutes ago
Also here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15651848
cameronhowe - 1 minutes ago
Can someone explain this to me: Isn't the GPU industry all about
Patents and trade secrets (enforced by NDAs). Won't all Rajas
expertise be tied up in that?